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Post by JAFO on Tue 25 Sep 2018, 4:00 pm

ABOUT F'N TIME!

BUT don't stop digging as to how this happened!

This is a perfect opportunity to put a spotlight (the size of the moon!) on the bureaucrats that are totally screwing vets and how a large, very large, portion of bureaucrats don't give a fiddler's fadoo about their lack of work ethic or compassion for veterans.
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Post by Kizzer on Tue 25 Sep 2018, 4:01 pm

Kizzer wrote:
Veterans Affairs to stop giving benefits to family members in prison amid uproar over Christopher Garnier case

By Amanda Connolly  National Online Journalist Global News
September 25, 2018



This being a no-brainer how long did it take them to make this decision?
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Post by Slann19 on Tue 25 Sep 2018, 4:07 pm

JAFO wrote:ABOUT F'N TIME!

BUT don't stop digging as to how this happened!

This is a perfect opportunity to put a spotlight (the size of the moon!) on the bureaucrats that are totally screwing vets and how a large, very large, portion of bureaucrats don't give a fiddler's fadoo about their lack of work ethic or compassion for veterans.

I agree totally! Let's force a debate surrounding how this happened in the first place. Proof of how VAC is run, and the vets that suffer because of the way it's run.
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Post by RunningLight on Tue 25 Sep 2018, 4:43 pm

Someone else must have made this call. Can't see the Minister making this call on his own given his character. The PM must have made the call from the UN meeting forcing them to cancel this. After all we have an election next year.
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Post by Jackson on Tue 25 Sep 2018, 4:48 pm

RunningLight wrote:Someone else must have made this call. Can't see the Minister making this call on his own given his character. The PM must have made the call from the UN meeting forcing them to cancel this. After all we have an election next year.  

Never thought of that. Other world leaders were probably walking up to him asking if it's true that benefits for your veterans went to a murderer who is in jail, and not even a veteran?
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Post by RunningLight on Tue 25 Sep 2018, 4:51 pm

Jackson wrote:
RunningLight wrote:Someone else must have made this call. Can't see the Minister making this call on his own given his character. The PM must have made the call from the UN meeting forcing them to cancel this. After all we have an election next year.  

Never thought of that. Other world leaders were probably walking up to him asking if it's true that benefits for your veterans went to a murderer who is in jail, and not even a veteran?

Bang on Jack!
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Post by RunningLight on Tue 25 Sep 2018, 4:56 pm

Minister orders Veterans Affairs to stop supporting convicted family members

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Post by RunningLight on Tue 25 Sep 2018, 4:57 pm

Veterans Affairs cuts benefits to jailed relatives, but won't say if Garnier affected

Anjuli Patil · CBC News · Posted: Sep 25, 2018

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Post by JAFO on Tue 25 Sep 2018, 5:16 pm

CONFIRMED!  Shameus is hiding behind the father's condition of a convicted murderer to save a bureaucrats ass!

Disgustingly demeaning to injured veterans to not out the culprit! Especially the father should be insulted that he is now a shield for a dumb-ass bureaucrat under the guise of "privacy".

And as for the comment every dollar spent only tells me a bureaucrat's yearly bonus is in trouble.

I really hope a reporter has the courage to dig into this event and find out who and why this even happened.  This issue should not die at the end of the day's news cycle.
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Post by Trooper on Tue 25 Sep 2018, 6:48 pm

I agree the story should not die after today. This is the time to come out swinging on the merits of proof that the government is incompetent in handling the Veterans file. It's an excellent time for all those Veteran advocates that were interviewed in the past on the file, and how they expressed their anger towards the government of Canada, to request an interview to prove the points they were making during the interview they had in the past. We all know the spin the government shows when responding to our inquiry into the failed system.

Here's a good example of proving to the whole Country who runs the Veterans file.

Hehr did the same thing for a Veteran who is now passed regarding this Veteran wanting to get into camp hill. The bureaucrats initially submitted to Hehr that policy prevented the Veterans admittance. So of course Hehr refused the initial outcry to pull policy, and make the call to allow him admittance. This went on for Months until public outcry got the best of the situation, and Hehr had to go against his boss the bureaucrats, and allow the Veterans admittance.

Same thing happened in this situation where the Minister of Veterans Affairs face his worse nightmare. The Ministers nightmare was of course a situation where he was put into a situation he could not deal with. He ran like an 8 year old to the bureaucrats, just like all of his predecessors, and went with their guidance which just added fuel to the fire. Now he like Hehr was forced to act on the situation.

These Ministers of Veterans Affairs past, and present are useless. They are useless because they do not understand the Veterans file enough to make decisions over, and above the bureaucrats. Every time these Ministers open their mouths, the words come from the bureaucrats. We as disabled Veterans have to rely on the bureaucrats of this Country for our financial security. These bureaucrats have taken away our lifelong financial security, and replaced it with a system that creates so much chaos that the chaos secures the bureaucrats future with ongoing workloads for them to seal in all their golden pensions. Meanwhile the disabled Veterans lose out on not only the security, but the opportunity to carry on with life without the chaos & stress that is inflicted upon us. And yes our government allows this to take place.

Bottom line here is quite simple, Canadian Disabled Veterans have had their lifelong security taken away by the government of Canada. The Canadian government claims that the system in place now is much more effective then the pension act system. If that is so, why have Veterans taken their fight to court? Why are we reading about the anger, and outrage on almost a Weekly basis even when the government is not sitting? The numerous coverage of backlash from Veterans, and the news such as today is proof by itself that the Canadian government has failed it's disabled Veterans, and even with that there's no sigh in sight the government will ever come to it's senses, and do the right, and honorable thing in bringing back the pension act.
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Post by JAFO on Tue 25 Sep 2018, 7:23 pm

Just watched CTV and the murderer is STILL getting his PTSD treated by VAC.

Shameus' order was that going forward ALL dependent claims will be scrutinized before approved by going up the chain of "Bureaucracy Hell"!

WHO IS BEING PROTECTED AT VAC? AND WHY!?!
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Post by Vizzer1 on Tue 25 Sep 2018, 7:26 pm

JAFO wrote:Just watched CTV and the murderer is STILL getting his PTSD treated by VAC.

Shameus' order was that going forward ALL dependent claims will be scrutinized before approved by going up the chain of "Bureaucracy Hell"!

WHO IS BEING PROTECTED AT VAC?  AND WHY!?!

Could it be a Legal thing?
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Post by JAFO on Tue 25 Sep 2018, 7:28 pm

NOPE!

Veterans can be stripped of benefits. Williams, Col Murderer, had his benefits stripped by the Governor General.

This is a Political thing Vizzer pure and simple.
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Post by Powergunner on Tue 25 Sep 2018, 7:45 pm

Just the fact of this taken place in the first place is a disgrace, and an embarrassment to the whole Country.
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