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Post by Magnum Fri 12 Jul 2019, 10:00 am

HMCS Chicoutimi crew has higher rates of PTSD, depression, study finds

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Aftermath of Canadian submarine fire: PTSD, asthma and depression

Jul 13, 2019

https://cfjctoday.com/2019/07/13/aftermath-of-canadian-submarine-fire-ptsd-asthma-and-depression/



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Post by Caliber Tue 11 Feb 2020, 4:19 pm

Canada's submarine fleet spent 'zero days' at sea
last year: government documents

Murray Brewster · CBC News · Posted: Feb 11, 2020

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Post by Forcell Tue 28 Jul 2020, 9:19 am

It's not the years, it's the mileage: military says it has a plan to keep subs afloat past retirement dates

Murray Brewster · CBC News · Posted: Jul 28, 2020


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Post by SniperGod Wed 28 Oct 2020, 4:14 pm

HMCS Windsor prepares for return to sea

By Lookout on Oct 28, 2020

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Excitement is building among HMCS Windsor personnel as the submarine wraps up the last phase of its Transitional Docking Work Period (TDWP) and gets set to sail for the first time since 2018.

“The closer we get to it, the more and more excited my crew and I are becoming. Being alongside isn’t ideal for any sailor, so we’re all chomping at the bit to get back to sea,” said LCdr Drew Matheson, Windsor’s Commanding Officer.

Windsor entered the submarine shed at HMC Dockyard in Halifax in October 2018 to begin its Transitional Docking Work Period (TDWP), undergoing deep maintenance work along with modernization upgrades over the last two years.

The TWDP’s purpose is to set the Victoria-class sub on its new operational cycle, which is planned to be nine years of service followed by three years of maintenance, a change from the previous six year/two year cycle. In order for that to happen, Windsor was required to go “back up on the blocks,” as LCdr Matheson describes it.

The two-pronged TDWP approach involved work on key pieces of maintenance to fix up the wear and tear from a busy sailing period from 2014 to 2018. That period saw Windsor deployed to Europe multiple times, with participation in exercises Joint Warrior and Trident Juncture. The sub also spent more than three months operating in the Mediterranean in 2018, a first for the Victoria-class fleet.

On top of the maintenance and repairs, the boat also underwent capability upgrades, receiving the new state-of-the-art BQQ-10 sonar, as well as an overhaul to its weapons systems. Windsor will now be armed with the Mk 48 MOD 7AT torpedo, an upgrade from the previous Mk 48 MOD 4M.

“In order to employ that, we had to make significant upgrades to our weapons capability through our torpedo handling system, our weapons discharge system, and our fire control system,” LCdr Matheson said.

Like most other Royal Canadian Navy and Canadian Armed Forces units, Windsor experienced a work stoppage in the spring when the country locked down to combat the COVID-19 pandemic. But despite a two-month interruption, work on the TWDP stayed ahead of schedule, and the boat was taken from the submarine shed and lowered back into Halifax Harbour in early August, earlier than expected. LCdr Matheson said dedicated work from FMF Cape Scott personnel, as well as his own sailors, was key to making that happen.

Workers from FMF Cape Scott are still on board now that Windsor is back in the water, finishing up the final pieces of maintenance while the crew begins powering up their main systems and beginning alongside trials.

“They’ve put it all back together, and now we have to prove that it works. When you’re adding new capabilities on board, that always comes with heavy trials and testing to make sure we have full acceptance of the system,” said LCdr Matheson. “If everything goes smoothly, we’ll camber dive the boat to prove its watertight integrity alongside, and then we’ll proceed to sea.”

LCdr Matheson also thanked Formation Safety for their support since Windsor went back into the water, and said that team has been on board extensively making sure the most up-to-date COVID-19 policies are being followed in accordance with the Commander Canadian Submarine Force’s goal to provide a safe work environment for anyone who boards a Victoria-class submarine.

Looking ahead, the sub will enter its tiered-readiness program at sea after proving its dive integrity, bringing both Windsor and its crew back into fighting shape. Beyond that, Canadian submarine movements are classified, but LCdr Matheson said his crew is looking forward to conducting their business at sea with a modernized and operationally available platform.

“The Defence Policy directs us to modernize the Victoria-class Submarine and to operate them at home and abroad, supporting Canada’s national interest and its international commitments. That’s what we intend to do.”





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Post by Xrayxservice Wed 23 Dec 2020, 9:27 am

Canadian submarine docked extra year due to leak found following errant test

THE CANADIAN PRESS / Dec. 21, 2020 8:30 p.m. / CANADA & WORLD / NEWS




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Post by Joker Mon 05 Apr 2021, 4:26 pm

Canadian submarine may have permanent damage due to errant test: report

By Lee Berthiaume The Canadian Press
Posted April 5, 2021





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Post by Covert Tue 06 Apr 2021, 8:40 am

Navy submarine has long-term damage to ballast tank from bungled test, report says

The Canadian Press · Posted: Apr 05, 2021

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Post by Reece Wed 14 Jul 2021, 8:52 am

Canada launches program to replace its ageing submarine fleet

Lee Berthiaume, The Canadian Press
Published Wednesday, July 14, 2021

OTTAWA -- The Royal Canadian Navy is launching its long-anticipated push to replace Canada's beleaguered submarine fleet, setting the stage for what will almost certainly be an extremely controversial debate around the need for such vessels.

Defence officials revealed to The Canadian Press this month that a dedicated team is being created to start figuring out what Canada needs in new submarines as the sunset on the military's existing fleet draws steadily closer.

The move responds to a growing sense of urgency within defence and industry circles about the need to start work on such a project given the age of Canada's existing submarines and the amount of time needed to design and build such vessels.

“The CAF is establishing a Canadian patrol submarine project to inform timely governmental decision-making about a potential replacement class of submarines, and avoid any gap in submarine capability,” navy spokesman Lt.-Cmdr. Jordan Holder said.

“In order to enable timely decision-making at some future point regarding a replacement class of submarines and the avoidance of a gap in submarine capability, the CAF required a replacement project to be initiated this year.”

Yet the decision to move ahead also kick-starts what is expected to be a tough conversation for the navy around the need for new submarines given the high cost of building and operating such vessels, and the many problems that have afflicted its current fleet.

Questions about the costs and benefits of submarines have circulated since Canada bought four second-hand vessels from Britain in 1998. The government at that time argued it was getting a bargain by paying only $750 million for the four Victoria-class vessels.

Yet the vessels have since spent more time in dock for repairs and maintenance than at sea, with Ottawa sinking billions of dollars into the fleet over the past 20-plus years to address a series of problems and incidents including fires and faulty welding.

The most recent incident saw HMCS Corner Brook suffer what may have been permanent damage last year after an errant test damaged the submarine's main ballast tank. Corner Brook previously ran aground in 2011, while a fire broke out on board in 2019.

The Defence Department has also pegged the cost of maintaining and operating the Victoria-class submarines at around $300 million per year.

A new fleet of submarines may address many of those problems, but Australia's recent experience suggests building a new fleet won't be smooth sailing - or cheap.

The Australian government, which has been working for more than a decade to buy 12 French-designed submarines, revealed last year that the diesel-electric vessels will cost more than $80 billion - or more than $6 billion each.

The new cost was nearly double Canberra's original estimate, and more than the $60 billion Canada plans to pay for a whole new fleet of 15 state-of-the-art frigates to replace its fleet of Halifax-class warships over the next two decades.

Australian officials are now struggling with what to do with the project in the face of severe public and expert criticism.

The Liberal government's defence policy committed in 2017 to extending the lives of Canada's four Victoria-class submarines, with sources pegging the cost at more than $2 billion to keep them operating until the mid-2030s.

Yet the defence policy did not set any money aside for replacements.

The navy continues to argue that submarines are critical for defending Canada, particularly as rivals such as Russia and China become more aggressive and this country's Arctic waters become more accessible due to climate change.

“Canada's submarine force provides a key strategic asset with formidable surveillance and intelligence gathering capabilities, as well as the ability to control or deny access to a substantial ocean or littoral area,” Holder said.

“Submarines are a key element of a balanced fleet that enables the Royal Canadian Navy to project power responsively and effectively far from Canada's shores, with the inherent flexibility and staying power required to succeed across a broad mission set.”

Holder was nonetheless quick to add that the decision to start work on a possible replacement “does not commit the government to any specific course of action, but instead preserves the time to make an informed decision when required.”

Defence analyst David Perry of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute says there is a strong argument to be made on the need for Canada to have submarines given Russia and China have both ramped up their respective underwater capabilities in recent years.

But he suggests there is nervousness in the navy as new subs will cost a great deal at a time when the government will be looking to set aside billions to upgrade North America's defensive network and other procurement projects are running over budget.

“I'd be nervous,” he said. “We're talking about making a pretty significant financial investment. And across defence, there's a whole bunch of budget pressures that have emerged on all kinds of projects.”





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Post by Ravenson Thu 29 Jun 2023, 4:38 pm



Canada urged to buy new submarines capable of operating in the Arctic

2023-06-29



With the Canadian Navy’s aging submarines unable to operate under Arctic ice, Ottawa is being urged to replace them with new models that can operate in the North

With the Canadian Navy’s aging submarines unable to operate under Arctic ice, Ottawa is being urged to replace them with new models that can operate in the North The standing Senate committee on national security, defence and veterans affairs Wednesday called on Ottawa to outline a plan for “expeditiously replacing” Canada’s diesel-electric subs with versions that can patrol under the ice.

The committee’s new report argues “increasingly aggressive behaviours by Russia and

have signalled a return to geopolitical competition” around the world. Canada’s existing four submarines are refurbished models originally built by Britain in the 1980s and, unlike nuclear-powered subs, aren’t designed for under-ice operations.

The report also recommends Canada make efforts to a security pact between Australia, Britain and the United States that was struck to counter China’s rising military might in the Indo-Pacific region. This non-nuclear part of AUKUS provides for information-sharing and close co-operation on accelerating development of cutting-edge technologies, including undersea defence capabilities, artificial intelligence, quantum technology and hypersonic warfare. headtopics.com







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Post by Accer Tue 19 Sep 2023, 1:54 pm



Military confirms Canadian sub had trouble at sea


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Post by Wolverine Wed 08 Nov 2023, 11:33 am



Government spending $3.5 million on spare parts for aging submarines that rarely patrol

Only two of Canada's Victoria Class submarines have been at sea over the past four years, for a total of 214 days

Ryan Tumilty . Published Nov 08, 2023


OTTAWA — Canada will spend $3.5 million to get spare parts for the Navy’s aging fleet of submarines, which spends more time under repair than in the water, according to documents obtained by the National Post.

Canada’s Victoria Class submarines went into service in the early 2000s after the Chrétien government bought the four used submarines from the United Kingdom, but they have been plagued by technical and maintenance issues since they were first purchased. Only two of them have been at sea over the past four years — for a total of 214 days.


In a 2021 briefing note sent to then Procurement Minister Anita Anand, bureaucrats sought permission to go ahead with a sole-sourced contract to purchase 35 actuators, a critical part that helps to keep a sub stable and manoeuvrable. The briefing note mentions the current actuators contain cadmium, a toxic metal, and could face restrictions entering European waters as a result.

The note also details how only one company in the world is available to make the actuators: Aircraft Appliances and Equipment Ltd., based in Brampton, Ont., which holds the rights to make the actuators designed by Triumph Ltd.

“These units are very specialized hardware based on outdated 30-year-old technology. There is limited worldwide demand for these actuators,” it reads.

The note mentions that only Canada, the U.K. and Australia have similar submarines, limiting the company’s potential customers, but it does hold patents on the spare parts.

“Given the intellectual property rights, a competitive process is not an option.”

The department did note the company agreed to provisions saying Canada was receiving the best deal it had offered anyone else.


Anand approved the sole-sourced purchase, with her department cautioning that if she didn’t the submarines could become inoperable.

Using an Order Paper Question, Conservative MP James Bezan asked the department how often the four subs had been in the water over the last 48 months. The response revealed that just two of the subs had spent anytime at sea at all, the HMCS Victoria and HMCS Windsor, which spent just 214 days at sea.

The Victoria made up 99 of those days and the Windsor 115. The HMCS Chicoutimi and the HMCS Corner Brook both spent the entirety of the past 48 months being repaired and upgraded.

Major Soomin Kim, a spokesman for the Department of National Defence, confirmed the submarines have not been available as often as the department wants, which has had an impact on recruitment.

“Canadian Submarine Force aims to schedule 270 sea days per year for the submarine force. In the past several years, this has not always been achievable due to maintenance periods or unforeseen mechanical defects, which has caused an impact to the trained effective strength of our submarine force,” he said in an email.

Bezan argued this is one of many signs the Liberal government is failing to spend enough on defence.

“We have submarines we can’t keep under water, our aging surface fleet still hasn’t been replaced, and we are shutting down fighter squadrons because we can’t keep planes in the air. Justin Trudeau is ignoring the threats Canada is facing and refusing to invest in military equipment and personnel to keep Canada safe,” he said in an email. “Conservatives will invest in our military and always stand up for our troops.”

Kim said the goal is for the fleet to have a cumulative 270 days at sea every year. He said the department’s aim is to get all of the subs in working order and back on patrol so they can attract sailors to the job.

He said the actuators bought through the sole-source contract have not been installed yet, and they are working with the contractor to determine when they will be delivered.

The department is in the middle of trying to modernize the submarines with further work expected to keep them operational into the next decade. Kim said the Navy is starting to work on a project looking at what could be available to replace the Victoria class in the 2030s.

“The Canadian Patrol Submarine Project examines all conventional options available to Canada, gathers information, and conducts analysis of potential submarines capable of meeting the RCN’s requirements,” he said.

The Ottawa Citizen reported earlier this year that the Navy is pushing to buy up to a dozen new submarines, which could cost between $60 billion and $100 billion.

A Senate committee studying threats to Canada earlier this year strongly recommended Canada move quickly to replace the fleet with one that can operate under Arctic ice.

“In the committee’s opinion, Canada urgently needs to enhance its ability to detect underwater threats. In that context, the committee encourages the Government of Canada to explore options to procure relevant equipment, such as submarines and underwater sensing capabilities,” the Senators wrote.

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