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Dennis Manuge v.Her Majesty The Queen
by Replica Wed 16 Jan 2019, 4:47 pm
Medric Cousineau shared a post. Jan 16, 2019
Stand to. Manuge vs Crown V 2.0 is live folks.
Stand to. Manuge vs Crown V 2.0 is live folks.
Corporal Justice Rides V 2.0
My good buddy & brother Dennis Manuge has assembled the Legal Dream Team (The Band) to have another go at the Government of Canada.
At issue? The 165 Million that VAC illegally withheld from Disabled Veterans Pensions. VAC has already admitted culpability. VAC says they are going to make restitution in 2020. So why bother? What is the point?
The point is that a government department became complicit in defrauding veterans of part of their rightful disability pensions. They knew it and corrected an error from 2001 to 2009. They fixed the error on a go forward from 2010. Yet in 2018, VAC had still not owned it and made reparations. (In the twisted and perverse irony VAC had the temerity to complain that 170,000 plus of those affected have passed on and tracking their estates maybe problematic. Might I suggest that it would be less of a problem had they addressed it in 2010 but I digress).
Two things need to happen.
1. Those who perpetrated this heinous mess need to be outed, and held publically accountable.
2. There needs to be a very substantial punitive damages penalty attached. This fiasco became very deliberate in 2010. From 2001 to 2009, it was a crime of ommission. VAC omitted to pay the Disabled Veterans their just amounts. However, in 2010 the actions became a very deliberate thing. So this 165 Million Dollar accural accounting problem gets outed in November of 2018, and VAC's response is that they will deal with it in 2020.
Who knew and when will become very important. Heads should roll. But they will not if the dark shrouds of bureaucratic secrecy remain. This court action is both simultaneously sadly unnecessary and extremely necessary. It it sad that this mess ever got to this point. However, our only defence from our own government is found before the courts.
Sad that Manuge Vs the Crown V2.0 is even a thing.
(Is it just me or is the bitter irony of veterans yet once again battling the govt in court lost? They taught us to fight. I just never thought they would become the enemy.)
Regulators.... Ride.
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Re: Dennis Manuge v.Her Majesty The Queen
by Trooper Thu 17 Jan 2019, 7:28 am
Veterans Affairs $165M gaffe headed to Federal Court in proposed class-action lawsuit
'Any Canadian can understand a mistake, but just come out and say listen we made a mistake'
Murray Brewster · CBC News · Posted: Jan 17, 2019
'Any Canadian can understand a mistake, but just come out and say listen we made a mistake'
Murray Brewster · CBC News · Posted: Jan 17, 2019
Dennis Manuge, who filed the proposed class-action lawsuit filed this week, was previously successful in taking the Department of National Defence to court a few years ago over the clawback of military pensions. (Andrew Vaughan/Canadian Press)
A proposed class-action lawsuit has been filed against the federal government over the $165-million accounting blunder by Veterans Affairs Canada, CBC News has learned.
The court action, which has yet to be certified, was filed on Tuesday by former soldier Dennis Manuge, who successfully took the Department of National Defence to court a few years ago over the clawback of military pensions.
The new case involves the miscalculation of disability awards and pensions at the veterans department, a fiscal gaffe that went on for almost eight years, starting in 2002.
In 2010, the department discovered and corrected the indexing mistake, which affects about 272,000 elderly veterans, but quietly fixed the issue without notifiying those affected until the former veterans ombudsman blew the whistle last November.
Last week, CBC News revealed documents that detailed how the error happened and some of the assumptions bureaucrats used when the issue was buried.
The lawsuit takes aim at that aspect and said the government's "conduct in failing to disclose the calculation error once discovered in 2010 is public misfeasance in office which should be censured by a damage award," said a copy of the statement of claim.
Peter Driscoll, the lawyer representing Manuge, said the federal government knew what it was doing and acted unlawfully.
"We say that there is a duty, among other things, upon the government to disclose such an error, make good on that error in a transparent way, and that's what they failed to do," he told CBC News in an interview.
Repayments coming 2020
Manuge, who was collecting disability benefits during the period in question, said he believes someone needs to held accountable for not reporting the initial mixup.
"Any Canadian can understand a mistake, but just come out and say, 'Listen, we made a mistake, this is what happened and here's what we're doing to fix it,'" he said in an interview Wednesday.
The Liberal government dodged questions last week about whether it would investigate.
"If Veterans Affairs is not going to hold themselves accountable, if we cannot get a straight answer ... then, you know, I am really confident that the Federal Court will find some answers for us," said Manuge.
As part of owning up to the mistake late last year, the Liberal government promised it would reimburse those affected, but underlined the payments wouldn't be made until 2020.
That, said Driscoll, is offensive.
"You know when a veteran owes the government money in the form of an overpayment and VAC benefits, or assistance, or whatever the case may be, they're immediately required to pay it back," he said.
2007 lawsuit
Driscoll said a number of veterans, in addition to Manuge, contacted their law office and claim that their attempts to get information about reimbursement out of service agents at Veterans Affairs have been met with obfuscation and the brushoff.
Driscoll said Manuge's experience and perseverance through the previous court case involving the Service Income Security Insurance Plan meant he was the right person to front a class-action lawsuit.
Manuge was injured in an accident at Camp Petawawa, Ont. in 2001, just before being deployed to Bosnia. His condition forced him to leave the military two years later, and he suffered from lower back pain as well as bouts of depression.
At the time, his Canadian military long-term disability benefits were reduced by the amount of money he received in disability from Veterans Affairs.
He fought the clawback and filed a class-action lawsuit against the federal government in March 2007, which took almost five years to make its way through the courts.
His lawyers won a victory in 2012, when the Federal Court said it was unfair of the federal government to treat pain and suffering awards as income.
The former Conservative government decided not to appeal and negotiated a $887-million settlement with the roughly 7,500 soldiers who were affected.
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