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Disabled vets still pushing for reinstatment of lifelong pensions

Post by Forcell on Sat 11 Nov 2017, 12:40 pm

Nov 11, 2017

As Canadians pause to remember the soldiers who died in the service of their country, some veterans say they hope the federal government will also remember the promises it made to those who were left permanently disabled.

Mark Campbell and Aaron Bedard, two of the six injured veterans who launched a lawsuit against the government five years ago, are in Ottawa this week and will be attending the Remembrance Day ceremony Saturday at the National War Memorial.

"We focus on sacrifice, particularly remembering those who can't be here. But I would suggest that we also need to remember those who are here but are broken, whose suffering continues for the remainder of their lives," Mr. Campbell said Friday in an interview. "Quite frankly, the way that the government of Canada can honour its obligation to the sacrifice is to reinstate the lifelong pension."

The suit, known as Equitas, demands that disabled veterans who were discharged after 2006, when the New Veterans Charter took effect, receive compensation equivalent to that which was awarded under the old Pension Act. In particular, they want to receive the lifetime pensions that were replaced with lump-sum awards and other benefits.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau campaigned in 2015 with the Equitas vets and promised to bring back the lifetime pensions. But two years after his party was victorious, that has yet to happen.

The most recent federal budget promised those lifetime pensions would be offered to disabled veterans before the end of this year. And Seamus O'Regan, who became Veterans Affairs Minister in August, told a Newfoundland radio station on Friday that the pensions would "be ready in the next few weeks because that was the promise we made."

But Mr. Campbell, a retired infantry major whose legs were blown off when he walked over an improvised explosive device in Afghanistan in June, 2008, said his meetings with government officials this week gave him little assurance.

His biggest fear, and that of the other Equitas vets, is that Ottawa will simply offer to spread the lump-sum payments out over a disabled veteran's lifetime. The Conservative government tried something similar in 2010 and veterans made it clear that it was an unacceptable compromise.

"We have heard nothing [about the lifetime pensions] in response to any of our interviews or discussions to date. That said, the government still has a month to make an announcement," Mr. Campbell said.

But Christmas is not far away and the holiday season can be a difficult time for veterans in crisis, he said. "If the news coming out of the government regarding pensions for life is not positive, if they don't achieve parity with the Pension Act to include tax-free status, to include no clawback of the military pension, then it's going to be an ugly Christmas season."

The Liberal government has spent billions of dollars on improving benefits for disabled veterans since taking office two years ago. Guy Parent, the Veterans Ombudsman, said earlier this year that the New Veterans Charter is more generous than most people think.

But Mr. Campbell said the fact that Ottawa has been fighting the veterans in court since 2012, that the government argues it has no social contract or covenant with veterans, and that the promise of the lifetime pensions has yet to be fulfilled, is what will be running through his mind as he sits through the Remembrance Day ceremony.


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Re: Disabled vets still pushing for reinstatment of lifelong pensions

Post by Trooper on Sat 11 Nov 2017, 7:18 pm

Listen, we don't have to wait to hear what the lifelong pension will be, I can tell you all now it will be worth nothing.

People are under the impression that this lifelong pension is coming from JT, or Seamus, JT and Seamus have absolutely no clue on the specifics of this upcoming pension. No clue Whatsoever. The upcoming pension is coming from the bureaucrats. Does anybody think that the bureaucrats will bring forward a lifelong pension worth anything?

As far as the Liberals spending billions on disabled Veterans since taking office, some of those funds were allotted to non disabled Veterans. Nevertheless, just because you pay $50'000 for a 2017 new vehicle, does not mean it is better than the same Vehicle, older model. My point is you cannot make your case on merits from dollars alone. Same goes for quantity, you cannot base your merits on quantity alone simply because quantity does not equal Quality!

Guy Parent is just as bad as the PM and the MVA, he uses dollars and quantity as a selling point of the New Veterans Charter being more generous than people think. He, Guy Parent with all of his time in, hard work and studies has made up his mind that the New Veterans Charter is better than the pension act, to put it plain and simple, Mr. Parent is wrong, on that point he loses all credibility. He is put in the same category as the PM and the MVA and the bureaucrats running the Veterans file.


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Re: Disabled vets still pushing for reinstatment of lifelong pensions

Post by Dannypaj on Sun 12 Nov 2017, 7:42 am

Here's a real life example.

$2,000+ (loose figure at a given %) under the Pension Act ( The difference prior to 1st April 2006 ).
This veteran is now stable, graduated and on their way of being gainfully employed and will not see any deductions or lose of benefits.
Their civilian income is not applied, nor associated with the Pension Act entitlement.

Under the NVC:
You are told what to do and are not advised on what you can or can not apply for, let alone what your entitled to.
The ELB (Earnings Lose Benefit) is the carrot and unless you are deemed DEC (Diminished Earnings Capacity) or formally known as TPI (Totally Permanently Impaired); chances are once employed, you lose your ELB entitlement.
The GoC (Government of Canada) doesn't want to pay you, GoC wants you employed!
Hence they, GoC policy makers reassess every two years! (This is where in your mind the PA is sounding 100% better, and your thinking, "yup, I am tired of being controlled" and the NVC is just that leverage that is in place that allows the control).
How does one and their family get even close to well, when their financial well being is always held over their heads by the bureaucrats on a round the clock basis.
24/7, just like the clock, impairments never go away.

The newest generation of service men and women will only receive a royal pounding of rhetoric when it comes to the NVC going on forwards.
Lead by example. "YES SIR!"
Remember most politicians never served in the CAF (Canadian Armed Forces).

How does one get front row seats at the Ottawa Cenotaph? But, Kudus on those who managed to do so.
"Just letting it be known that I don't speak for others. I speak for myself and my family".  
Know the differences between the PA and NVC!
It'll serve you well in the future.
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