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Post by Dannypaj on Wed 17 Jan 2018, 8:46 pm

http://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4490592

Having not served out my full career and receiving the CIA.
Again I'm assuming that I'm at the right CIA level.
I am at level 3.
According to the ombudsman and CBC explanation, I should be at level 1?

Time served and having ones career cut short, what's what?
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Post by Dannypaj on Fri 26 Jan 2018, 7:09 am

They have made a decision in my case.
My CIA(s) is complete and I should have word of the outcome soon (as per myVAC Account).
Thank you everyone on these forums for the moral and mental support.
P.s
1. Career impact allowance June 24, 2013  application date (DENIED and fought two years to have approved?) Cost savings
2. Career impact allowance (supplement) June 15, 2017 application date (Now let see if they discriminate due to my age, as per my conversation with my CMO).
Cost saving & back to wherever they see me fit to work?

Stressful times.
I have been in limbo since 1998, waiting for the control tower to give me permission oh' to live my life without having to worry about being financially burdened, again.

But who knows with the current circus that is currently in Ottawa and what sort of show they are going to put on.
In the end, is it fooling anyone?

Anyway let's hope they took enough of my time and their and time and got it right.;at least this part right.


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Post by bosn181 on Fri 26 Jan 2018, 9:16 am

hoping it all gets sorted out this time for you and things go in your favour.

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Post by Dannypaj on Sun 28 Jan 2018, 7:29 am

Thanks bosn181.

I am Still waiting for a response.
The what "ifs" are flying through my head and what will the future hold, "now that this very important part of the puzzle' may or may not be in place; the (CIAs)."
Without the CIAs and being placed on the NVC opposed to the PA is a gaggle of WTF are these folks in power doing?
And they know it affects people's lives..... And all who administer this so called NVC, all of you should give your heads a shake.

Why wont politicians answer a question directed by a veteran?  Let us remind them that they are not Teflon.
A total disrespect for our veterans should no longer be the norm, nor should  it be tolerated by true Canadians in Canada or abroad.

A member of the On-line Veterans Network (OVN) even had one on one time with the MVA, but yet the MVA did not respond to a question in a direct way, why?
Orders and Directions, stowed upon them by the GOC to withhold the truth of what is really their true intentions.
TO SAVE MONEY AT ALL COST
Bonus pay and danger pay, anyone!
All while streamlining our benefits' to save money on our backs?
Must be the Canadian way.

Borrowed quote:
“A veteran serves the nation. A veteran is a responsibility of the nation.”

1.The MVA won't commit to nothing
When asked about the "Nations fiduciary duty" and why it wasn't put into legislation.

Social media is the way forward...
Rumors on base went around quick and now online rumors and the truth are shared over the network at an even faster pace.

Social Media will bring us "all generations of veterans" together into a closely knit ball....and will be our own National power, with the ability to muster votes and attention where needed.

Facebook and the connections/reconnections from our past and present that we've all made; Very Happy
This FB amounts to one big network and social fed of information for us veterans.
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Post by Dannypaj on Sun 28 Jan 2018, 9:36 am

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dissonance-stephen-beardwood/?published=t

Dissonance

What drives a community to unite against a government; or in Canada’s case a political party in power? It’s not uncommon to watch military dictatorships in third world counties rise and fall. Corrupt politicians, corporate interests, private wealth and disenfranchised public are amongst the common problems escalating second and third world conflicts. The ‘Rule of Law’ in our first world nations prevent much of what we witness in the third world, but even that isn’t enough to stop the disenfranchised from rising in protest against first world political parties (particularly those that continually ignore advancing problems). As I watch the veteran’s news feeds over the past few years which are now being echoed by main stream media, I find it hard to understand what some of these “Political Leaders” are truly thinking or if they are thinking at all.

The explosion post 2006 of veteran suicides, pension denial, Mefloquin, and poor equipment issues appears to be largely ignored by government (at least in terms of solutions) despite main stream media not only reporting the problems, but siding with the veteran community. With each passing year political indifference is seconded only to empty promises of solutions. And when a solution is offered by a political party, it is partisan in nature and ineffective in addressing the core problem it is intended for. The latest example is the pension fix which on the surface appears to make it harder for those in need to qualify or have sufficient funding to live on (we won’t really know for another year). In contrast it appears that millions are to be made readily available in response to returning terrorist from conflicts that caused the injuries to our veterans in the first place. Who in their right mind would consider this to be sound doctrine? A sound person would expect that the opposite would be the solution that the political class in Canada would be reaching for. Why would anyone want to further alienate an elevated and respected class of Canadian Society (the veteran community) that has already spent decades being alienated from its own government?

Fortunately for Canadians (and Canada in general) our veteran community is the very embodiment of those who have sworn to uphold the rule of law. I would further extend this to our first responders. The problem in Canada isn’t with our veteran community getting out of hand in standing up for itself. The problem is that it hasn’t stood up for itself, and because of a lot of personal damage, they are often incapable of standing up for themselves. The few that do are often dismissed as “mentally ill” or “angry veterans”. So one has to ask, “Where are Canadians in all this”? The Canadians who will stand up and demand equality in pension for our veterans, investigation as to why a drug was approved without a drug trial, why equipment scheduled for replacement takes over 30 years to be replaced? Do they really not care? What happened to the outrage that was present when our troops came back dead and wounded?

Dissonance; Definition: a: lack of agreement the dissonance between the truth and what people want to believe; especially: inconsistency between the beliefs one holds or between one's actions and one's beliefs

Decades ago I remember musing when the first dozen dead came back from Afghanistan, that there was no outrage when we lost a loaded Hercules aircraft with 40 plus men on board back in 1989; or the loss of 4 to 10 at a time in various training accidents throughout the years, or the year a half dozen drowned in an drop zone error which resulted in two dozen troops being air dropped into the Ottawa River without floatation devices. There was barely a sound back then, barely a murmur or muffle of interest in the well being of the military or the veteran community at large. Is this what our country is returning to? Where is the outrage over unjust practices for our veterans? For as dark as my damaged brain can get, it’s not nearly as dark as the as the dissonance of the Canadian public over its veterans’ community.




Veterans Matter!

At the end of the day we are all in this together, unfortunately a veteran's day is 24hrs, seven days a week.


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Post by Trooper on Sun 28 Jan 2018, 10:19 am

Dannypaj wrote:https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dissonance-stephen-beardwood/?published=t

Dissonance

What drives a community to unite against a government; or in Canada’s case a political party in power? It’s not uncommon to watch military dictatorships in third world counties rise and fall. Corrupt politicians, corporate interests, private wealth and disenfranchised public are amongst the common problems escalating second and third world conflicts. The ‘Rule of Law’ in our first world nations prevent much of what we witness in the third world, but even that isn’t enough to stop the disenfranchised from rising in protest against first world political parties (particularly those that continually ignore advancing problems). As I watch the veteran’s news feeds over the past few years which are now being echoed by main stream media, I find it hard to understand what some of these “Political Leaders” are truly thinking or if they are thinking at all.

The explosion post 2006 of veteran suicides, pension denial, Mefloquin, and poor equipment issues appears to be largely ignored by government (at least in terms of solutions) despite main stream media not only reporting the problems, but siding with the veteran community. With each passing year political indifference is seconded only to empty promises of solutions. And when a solution is offered by a political party, it is partisan in nature and ineffective in addressing the core problem it is intended for. The latest example is the pension fix which on the surface appears to make it harder for those in need to qualify or have sufficient funding to live on (we won’t really know for another year). In contrast it appears that millions are to be made readily available in response to returning terrorist from conflicts that caused the injuries to our veterans in the first place. Who in their right mind would consider this to be sound doctrine? A sound person would expect that the opposite would be the solution that the political class in Canada would be reaching for. Why would anyone want to further alienate an elevated and respected class of Canadian Society (the veteran community) that has already spent decades being alienated from its own government?

Fortunately for Canadians (and Canada in general) our veteran community is the very embodiment of those who have sworn to uphold the rule of law. I would further extend this to our first responders. The problem in Canada isn’t with our veteran community getting out of hand in standing up for itself. The problem is that it hasn’t stood up for itself, and because of a lot of personal damage, they are often incapable of standing up for themselves. The few that do are often dismissed as “mentally ill” or “angry veterans”. So one has to ask, “Where are Canadians in all this”? The Canadians who will stand up and demand equality in pension for our veterans, investigation as to why a drug was approved without a drug trial, why equipment scheduled for replacement takes over 30 years to be replaced? Do they really not care? What happened to the outrage that was present when our troops came back dead and wounded?

Dissonance; Definition: a: lack of agreement the dissonance between the truth and what people want to believe; especially: inconsistency between the beliefs one holds or between one's actions and one's beliefs

Decades ago I remember musing when the first dozen dead came back from Afghanistan, that there was no outrage when we lost a loaded Hercules aircraft with 40 plus men on board back in 1989; or the loss of 4 to 10 at a time in various training accidents throughout the years, or the year a half dozen drowned in an drop zone error which resulted in two dozen troops being air dropped into the Ottawa River without floatation devices. There was barely a sound back then, barely a murmur or muffle of interest in the well being of the military or the veteran community at large. Is this what our country is returning to? Where is the outrage over unjust practices for our veterans? For as dark as my damaged brain can get, it’s not nearly as dark as the as the dissonance of the Canadian public over its veterans’ community.




Veterans Matter!

At the end of the day we are all in this together, unfortunately a veterans day is 24hrs, seven days a week.

Excellent article especially the part where he says “Where are Canadians in all this”?

If anything is to change in favor of Veterans at this stage of the game it will have to come from Veterans starting an ABL campaign now, not next year but now. Tell the whole Country about how the Liberals failed in implementing what was promised to Veterans by the Liberals. If the promises were not implemented as stated, they failed in their promise. When they implement retro top ups, it must be a true top up, nothing less. It does not matter that any of the other two parties have nothing better for Veterans. What matters is Veterans actually holding the present government to account.
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Post by Dannypaj on Thu 01 Feb 2018, 6:58 am

Denied, as expected.
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Post by Dannypaj on Mon 05 Feb 2018, 6:20 am

Dannypaj wrote:They have made a decision in my case.
My CIA(s) is complete and I should have word of the outcome soon (as per myVAC Account).
Thank you everyone on these forums for the moral and mental support.
P.s
1. Career impact allowance June 24, 2013  application date (DENIED and fought two years to have approved?) Cost savings
2. Career impact allowance (supplement) June 15, 2017 application date (Now let see if they discriminate due to my age, as per my conversation with my CMO).
Cost saving & back to wherever they see me fit to work?

Stressful times.
I have been in limbo since 1998, waiting for the control tower to give me permission oh' to live my life without having to worry about being financially burdened, again.

But who knows with the current circus that is currently in Ottawa and what sort of show they are going to put on.
In the end, is it fooling anyone?

Anyway let's hope they took enough of my time and their and time and got it right.;at least this part right.

I repeat,  

Cost saving & back to wherever they see me/you fit to work?


We all knew this all along, but to hear it from the top?  Mad
Now, when speaking with a CMO, the follow up question will be  "and is this to save costs?"

Messing with "Canada's "Brightest."   (From a no hook private, to some 4 leaf generals)
Team work, "there is no I in Team!"  
The military is the spine of Canada (someone knows someone that's in the military).
Our Veterans and Indigenous people will be Canada's number one priority!
Financial security can go along way...
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