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Canada should establish in law a social contract with veterans

Post by Trooper on Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:32 am

LOUIS CUPPENS

Published on: January 4, 2018

The Canadian Peacekeeping Veterans Association, an all-veteran group, is gravely concerned about the current untenable legal situation in which Canadian vets are trapped.

Recently, a B.C. Court of Appeals overturned an earlier ruling of the B.C. Supreme Court concerning a class-action lawsuit by veterans. The court’s claim is that there is no legislation that creates a social contract between members of the Canadian Armed Forces and the Government of Canada. Their finding states in most simplistic terms — “the government has no obligation to care for its military and veterans.” This is indeed unfortunate and this finding will surely have a negative impact on recruitment and retention of our volunteer military and RCMP unless it’s redressed.

While citizens consider that such a social contract, also called the social covenant or the sacred obligation, exists, the reality is that our legislators have never passed legislation that defines the social contract with those who defend and serve our nation and willingly expose themselves to “harms way.” Those who serve expect that they’ll be cared for, but such legislation — the social contract — has eluded governments for years.

A historical review will reveal that such a contract exists in practice, but not in legislation, and this needs to change. Courts enforce legislation; legislators create the laws that govern us.

The Government of Canada’s support of vets began with the creation of a two-focused department, headed by a minister in 1928. In 1944, the government created the Department of Veterans Affairs by an act that has been amended over time. Neither contains a reference to the needed social contract. I contend that the creation of Veterans Canada is the fulfilment of the unstated social contract; however, successive governments seem to refuse to take responsibility for the affairs of veterans — witness the recent statements by Minister of Veterans Affairs Seamus O’Regan and the promise made by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to create a lifelong pension for injured vets.


The legislation to enact the New Veterans Charter and supporting legislation came into being in 2006; however, improvements can and should be made. Veterans’ advocacy groups have made the government and citizens aware of such. Still no statement of a social contract has been placed into law. In 2007, the government enacted the Veterans’ Bill of Rights; again there is no mention of a social contract or obligation.

The courts don’t consider statements by elected officials as law; in fact, such are viewed as political rhetoric. Statements by ministers and the PM that “we support our veterans” are just that, with no basis in law. Surely a simple amendment to extant legislation that states clearly that there is a social contract, wherein the government and the people of Canada have the moral and social obligation to care for its vets, can be accomplished. Perhaps new legislation would fulfil this essential policy. Either would be welcomed by those who serve.

Our veterans, service personnel and RCMP stand between us and those who would do us harm. They expect that they’ll be cared for by the government and people they serve. Simply stated, “Remember the fallen, take care of the wounded.” Please encourage those you elect to office to enact this essential “social contract.”

Lt.-Gen. (retired) Louis Cuppens is the special advocacy adviser for the Canadian Peacekeeping Veterans Association and a former deputy commander-in-chief of Norad.

http://vancouversun.com/opinion/op-ed/opinion-canada-should-establish-in-law-a-social-contract-with-veterans
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Post by Dannypaj on Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:47 am

Finally a Man with clout speaks!
Thank you sir! & I salute you Lt. Gen. with a real salute!
I don't believe anything that comes out of Ottawa now a days, but this gives hope that the upper echeleon is starting to crumble and speak out against the monkey-suit people in Ottawa, with no military experience, or the "YES" men start leaving as well.
And Thanks for a real Commander-in-Chief for taking the time and writing this article.
BZ
More and more will come out, wait and see.

NATIONAL SECURITY
"The courts don’t consider statements by elected officials as law; in fact, such are viewed as political rhetoric. Statements by ministers and the PM that “we support our veterans” are just that, with no basis in law."

Trust statement, unbearably to hear but it is the real truth....Hence VRAB and the triple D system (Delay, Deny & Die).
YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS!
Democracy is for the rich to stay rich.

Injured in service and now looking for justice in a legal system, opposed to a justice system...people especially injurd veterans shouldn't be treated any lower then someone that was handed $10,500,000.

Here is $200,000 and thanks for coming out.
It doesn't work that way, nor any member of the DND should allow for the GOC to get away with what it proposed for us veterans..
The QR&O's are in need of one serious amendment, “the government has no obligation to care for its military and veterans.” This is indeed unfortunate and this finding will surely have a negative impact on recruitment and retention of our volunteer military and RCMP unless it’s redressed!"
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Post by Dannypaj on Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:06 am

There are thousands on Social Media speaking out.
Prior to the elections there were some dissident voices online.
Now the information is a flowing and in one direction.

The ones who are siding with the new proposed changes are being challenged immediately I.e.. T.B (this guy doesn't speak for me).
The veterans community is younger and more technically advanced on the Veterans File, hence instead of going to the drinking hole "The Legion" we discuss the real issue online.

We have our lead news men, A.B and M.C let them do the talking.
They are on point on what they want to accomplish?
More are speaking out.


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Post by Dannypaj on Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:01 am

Proof.

It all started in 1998.

And the latest announcement makes absolutely no sense to me.



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Post by Dannypaj on Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:11 am



Do yourselves a favour and keep fighting for your benefits.
You deserve it!
You swore an oath to Canada.
To learn, to serve and protect Canada.




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Post by JAFO on Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:35 pm

The national CPVA never really impressed me. They were always the silent group afraid to speak up for fear of reprisals from VAC.

Though this idea just gob smacked me with "Why hasn't anyone thought of this?"

BZ CPVA now find a politician and start the bill. This idea if anything will "stabilise the ground" moving forward when dealing with VAC and the GoC.

Not to mention what issues will be brought to the table from vet groups that help write this legislation. ALL issues can then be looked at and the input of information will come from the experts....US!
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