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New Canadian special forces compound at Petawawa to open by 2021
by Trooper Sun 10 Dec 2017, 9:49 am
Project to cost $319 million
DAVID PUGLIESE --- Dec 07, 2017
In total, ten buildings will be constructed in a secure compound at 4 CDSB, Petawawa. The facilities will include working space, training facilities, vehicle maintenance areas, warehouses and medical facilities. The new facilities will consolidate CSOR activities in one complex.
The entire project will cost approximately $319 million.
That amount includes:
– Project Management Costs;
– Engineering Studies;
– Design;
– Defence Construction Canada Contract Management;
– Construction (the VAST majority of the costs);
– Security;
– Furniture;
– Demolition work;
– Relocation;
– DND Communications Systems;
– HST.
All of the buildings currently occupied by CSOR will be returned to the 4 CDSB for use by other units, or for demolition. Twenty buildings are currently scheduled for demolition as they have reached the end of their economic and useful life, according to the Department of National Defence. Demolition will be contracted out separately.
Work began in July and the complex is anticipated to be completed in late 2021, said DND spokesman Daniel Le Bouthillier.
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/new-canadian-special-forces-compound-at-petawawa-to-open-by-2021
DAVID PUGLIESE --- Dec 07, 2017The Canadian Special Operations Regiment will have a new compound at Petawawa in the coming years.
In total, ten buildings will be constructed in a secure compound at 4 CDSB, Petawawa. The facilities will include working space, training facilities, vehicle maintenance areas, warehouses and medical facilities. The new facilities will consolidate CSOR activities in one complex.
The entire project will cost approximately $319 million.
That amount includes:
– Project Management Costs;
– Engineering Studies;
– Design;
– Defence Construction Canada Contract Management;
– Construction (the VAST majority of the costs);
– Security;
– Furniture;
– Demolition work;
– Relocation;
– DND Communications Systems;
– HST.
All of the buildings currently occupied by CSOR will be returned to the 4 CDSB for use by other units, or for demolition. Twenty buildings are currently scheduled for demolition as they have reached the end of their economic and useful life, according to the Department of National Defence. Demolition will be contracted out separately.
Work began in July and the complex is anticipated to be completed in late 2021, said DND spokesman Daniel Le Bouthillier.
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/new-canadian-special-forces-compound-at-petawawa-to-open-by-2021
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Ten years after allegations, inquiry into 'non criminal' Afghan war issues with Canadian special forces still not public
by Saulman Mon 06 Aug 2018, 3:52 pm
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Canada's special forces kept too many secrets about Afghan missions, says report
by Maxstar Wed 05 Sep 2018, 8:48 pm
Report describes a tight-lipped culture of operational secrecy in special forces units
Murray Brewster · CBC News · Posted: Sep 05, 2018
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by Maxstar Thu 06 Sep 2018, 7:10 am
Special forces secrecy impeded probe of potential wrongdoing in Afghanistan, report finds
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Re: Joint Task Force 2
by Charlie Thu 06 Sep 2018, 8:12 pm
Canadian Forces failed to properly investigate allegations of commando gunning down surrendering Afghan: report
David Pugliese, Ottawa Citizen
September 6, 2018
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Re: Joint Task Force 2
by Zodiac Sun 09 Sep 2018, 2:36 pm
Australian investigators probing special forces wrongdoing in Afghanistan consult with Canadian military
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Joint Task Force 2
by Stayner Fri 12 Jul 2019, 7:39 pm
Canadian Forces may cancel plan to relocate special forces unit from Ottawa over $1.2 billion price tag
David Pugliese, Ottawa Citizen
July 12, 2019
David Pugliese, Ottawa Citizen
July 12, 2019
Also, the 'emerging threat' of lone-wolf terror attacks targeting various capitals around the world have prompted a rethink on the move
Members of Canada's special operations unit Joint Task Force Two during training.DND/File
A plan to move the country’s special forces counterterrorism unit out of Ottawa is being reconsidered because of concerns over excessive costs and the threat of “lone wolf” terror attacks on the nation’s capital.
In 2008 the Conservative government of the day announced that Joint Task Force 2, a Canadian Forces special operations unit specializing in counter-terror operations, among other things, would be moved from Ottawa to Canadian Forces Base Trenton, Ont. To prepare for that relocation, the government expropriated a 90-hectare family farm in the area.
But the cost of the new JTF2 base has jumped from an estimated $346 million to $1.2 billion. In the meantime, terror attacks have targeted various capitals around the world, prompting a rethink on the move.
“An emerging threat against western nations is that of ‘lone wolf’ terrorist attacks against targets of tremendous symbolic importance, such as those we have seen in Berlin, London, Paris, and Ottawa,” said Department of National Defence spokesman Dan Le Bouthillier. In October 2014, lone wolf attacker Michael Zehaf-Bibeau killed Cpl. Nathan Cirillo at the National War Memorial in Ottawa, then attacked the nearby Parliament Buildings, where he was shot and killed.
“Many of our allies have responded to this shift in the security environment by relocating their top-tier special forces units to within close proximity and rapid response time of their national capitals, and the rationale for doing so has proven increasingly convincing,” Le Bouthillier said.
As a result, the Forces are now considering keeping JTF2 in Ottawa — and according to one source within the Department of National Defence, the move has been all but shelved.
The Canadian Forces had talked about the need for a new base for JTF2 since 2005. Among the options considered over the years was an expansion of the existing Ottawa site at Dwyer Hill or moving the unit to CFB Petawawa, where there are already special forces training facilities and installations.
But the Conservatives decided that relocating the unit to Trenton made the most sense. They argued that positioning JTF2 at CFB Trenton, one of the country’s main military airbases, allowed the unit immediate access to aircraft for domestic and overseas missions. Another unit in the special operations command with which JTF2 works closely — the Canadian Joint Incident Response Unit, which deals with nuclear, biological and chemical incidents — is already there.
“This decision made sense when considering the operational context at the time as colocation with the Trenton airbase would allow for rapid deployments, both at home and during international missions,” Le Bouthillier said. “However, the global security environment has changed considerably over the past decade, and our readiness and posture must evolve to deal with these changing threats.”
In 2016 Chief of the Defence Staff Gen. Jon Vance was warned that the project to move JTF2 from Ottawa to Trenton was facing major risk in “cost and scope,” according to documents Postmedia obtained under the Access to Information law. The special forces had significantly added to the plans for the proposed site, expanding it beyond its original scope.
The global security environment has changed considerably
The current Liberal government has announced plans to boost the size of Canada’s special forces from roughly 1,900 to 2,500, though it has not offered a time frame for the increase and it’s unclear how many of the new personnel would be assigned to JTF2.
The 2012 decision to expropriate Frank Meyers’ 90-hectare farm for the new JTF2 installation was controversial. The farm had been in the Meyers family for more than 200 years. Meyers argued that the Canadian Forces already had large tracts of land, and instead could have built the base on property it owns in Mountain View, near Trenton.
When the Forces took over the farm they tore down barns and built a berm and some access roads, have done little else with the land.
Meyers’ supporters have asked the current government to return the property but it has declined to do so. Military officers say the expropriated Trenton property could be used as a training location or as the site of an ammunition building.
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Re: Joint Task Force 2
by Glideon Mon 15 Jul 2019, 6:56 pm
Joint Task Force 2 move to CFB Trenton being reconsidered
JULY 14, 2019
JULY 14, 2019
The move of Canada's special forces counterterrorism unit from Ottawa to CFB Trenton is being reconsidered.
The Ottawa Citizen is reporting that the Canadian Forces are considering keeping the Joint Task Force 2 base in Ottawa due to the threat of terror attacks targeting various capitals around the world and the rising cost of JTF2 from $346 million to $1.2 billion.
Back in 2008, the Conservative government had announced that JTF2 would be moved from Ottawa to Trenton.
In preparation for that relocation, the government had controversally expropriated Frank Meyers 90-hectare family farm in the area of CFB Trenton in 2012.
The farm had been in the Meyers family for more than 200 years. Meyers argued that the Canadian Forces already had large tracts of land to use, and could have built the base on property it owns in Mountain View, near Trenton.
When the special forces took over the farm, they tore down barns and built a berm and some access roads, but have not done much else with the land.
The government said at the time that putting the JTF2 at CFB Trenton would allow the unit immediate access to aircraft for domestic and overseas missions, allowing for rapid deployments.
The current Liberal government has announced plans to boost the size of Canada’s special forces from roughly 1,900 to 2,500, though it did not reveal a time frame for the increase and it’s not known how many of the new personnel would be assigned to JTF2.
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Re: Joint Task Force 2
by Stayner Sun 22 Sep 2019, 9:20 am
Canadian special forces armoured truck stolen in Iraq during Mosul liberation
Murray Brewster · CBC News · Posted: Sep 22, 2019
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Re: Joint Task Force 2
by Ranger Tue 22 Oct 2019, 5:48 pm
Farmer who fought expropriation of his land for JTF2 base dies at age 91
DAVID PUGLIESE, OTTAWA CITIZEN October 22, 2019
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Re: Joint Task Force 2
by Caliber Fri 25 Oct 2019, 4:29 pm
Military says rules were followed despite theft from JTF2 base of $23,000 worth of gun parts, equipment
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Re: Joint Task Force 2
by Phantom Thu 31 Oct 2019, 8:41 am
Working like dogs: Canadian special forces quietly build up canine units
Lee Berthiaume, The Canadian Press
Published Thursday, October 31, 2019
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/working-like-dogs-canadian-special-forces-quietly-build-up-canine-units-1.4663703
Published Thursday, October 31, 2019
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Re: Joint Task Force 2
by Stanleyz Fri 22 Nov 2019, 6:59 pm
Canadian special forces were in the dark about $23,000 in stolen equipment until police told them
DAVID PUGLIESE, OTTAWA CITIZEN................November 22, 2019
https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/canadian-special-forces-were-in-the-dark-about-23000-in-stolen-equipment-until-police-told-them
DAVID PUGLIESE, OTTAWA CITIZEN................November 22, 2019
https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/canadian-special-forces-were-in-the-dark-about-23000-in-stolen-equipment-until-police-told-them
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Re: Joint Task Force 2
by Matrix Sun 01 Dec 2019, 6:26 pm
Canadian military warned about 'culture' of stealing within special forces
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